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at the enof the day, there's a deal. >> yeah, this is like the debt ceiling is a phony argument. it's really about charter renewal. it's a renewal of a charter do continue spending, and what time and again the american people have been misled on the debt ceiling, what we are talking about you can't default. the government can't default on the debt or paying china and the like, what's bad is entitlement reform. you can. >> but he won't. >> that's not covered by the debt ceiling. >> the president loathes to cut spending of any kind. he wants more spending, in fact, and under no circumstances will he touch medicare, medicaid, social security. agree with that? >> surprised if he touchedded them if there's no real substantive cuts. the only way to cut the diset would be to hit those. i don't think he will. think about this. if simpson-bowles was enacted two years ago or now, if it had, ten years down the road, debt to gdp would be 65%. livable. in greece, it's 100 and change. the other european countries it approaches a hundred. if we do nothing including the new deal putting put toge
at the enof the day, there's a deal. >> yeah, this is like the debt ceiling is a phony argument. it's really about charter renewal. it's a renewal of a charter do continue spending, and what time and again the american people have been misled on the debt ceiling, what we are talking about you can't default. the government can't default on the debt or paying china and the like, what's bad is entitlement reform. you can. >> but he won't. >> that's not covered by the debt...
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and he said the fiscal cliff deal represented progress but urged congress to raise the debt ceiling, saying it gives the government the ability to pay its existing bills. he said, we think we're getting some effect in lowering interest rates but saying it was still early yet. saying we have found it can be an effective tool but we'll continue to assess how effective and saying that could change over time. this comes in context of a debate on the federal reserve over the effectiveness of the additional quantitative easing and some concern about the negative impact. the felt, d, he said, has the ability to undo the policies before inflation becomes a problem. and then he was asked about the federal reserve enabling congress to spend a lot of money because it buys the government's debt, but he said it's not up to the fed to play games and tell congress what it should and should not be doing on its spending. and he added that the federal reserve has to follow its dual mandate. he was asked about question about his personal and he said, i try to get a lot of sleep and then, melissa, talki
and he said the fiscal cliff deal represented progress but urged congress to raise the debt ceiling, saying it gives the government the ability to pay its existing bills. he said, we think we're getting some effect in lowering interest rates but saying it was still early yet. saying we have found it can be an effective tool but we'll continue to assess how effective and saying that could change over time. this comes in context of a debate on the federal reserve over the effectiveness of the...
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you pay your debts first and then you deal with other spending. the president's tried to turn that upside down by saying he would cancel the debt. he can't do it. he won't do it. he's lying when he says that's what he will do. i think we have a conversation over the next two months reminding the american people that we will pay our debts but we won't pay obama's crazy overspending. >> the people are in charge. whether it's jack lew or tim geithner if you remember what happened at the end of 2011, it was an issue where you're going to be watching on tv that the soldiers that protect our freedom, are they going to get their check? soldiers that came back wounded from the first gulf war, are they going to get their check? that is going to be the issue on the front page, grover, is it not? >> and august of 2011 we had all the same screaming. i did all the television shows where people said taxpayers are causing the problems. i said the president is. we won, he lost. we got the spending cuts which he's trying to fight still but he got his debt ceiling
you pay your debts first and then you deal with other spending. the president's tried to turn that upside down by saying he would cancel the debt. he can't do it. he won't do it. he's lying when he says that's what he will do. i think we have a conversation over the next two months reminding the american people that we will pay our debts but we won't pay obama's crazy overspending. >> the people are in charge. whether it's jack lew or tim geithner if you remember what happened at the end...
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also congress has got to deal with the debt ceiling. we're hitting it yet again. sometime in mid-february, authorities believe. and this time it looks like republicans will be pushing for cuts and social will be on the table. finally, you mentioned vice president biden meeting today with cabinet members to finalize recommendations on guns including pushing for an assault weapons ban, but also what he said is a comprehensive approach to gun control. the nra and others don't believe in assault weapons ban can pass in congress. we'll get his recommendations tomorrow. >> thank you. >>> colin powell is speaking out on nbc's "meet the press" he endorsed chuck hagel to be the new defense secretary. he said hagel would do a great job at the pentagon. powell also fired harsh words at his own republican party. >> there's also a dark -- a dark vain of intolerance in some parts of the party. what do i mean by that? what i mean by that they still sort of look down on minorities. how can i evidence that? when i see a former governor say that the president is shucking and jiving
also congress has got to deal with the debt ceiling. we're hitting it yet again. sometime in mid-february, authorities believe. and this time it looks like republicans will be pushing for cuts and social will be on the table. finally, you mentioned vice president biden meeting today with cabinet members to finalize recommendations on guns including pushing for an assault weapons ban, but also what he said is a comprehensive approach to gun control. the nra and others don't believe in assault...
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but i think at the end of the day, the deal made is a debt ceiling increase. but republicans will go through with those sequester cuts. >> yeah. if i could just come. jump in real quick. brian, bandy, jumping 06 of what jimmy had to say here, let's not forget, defaulting on the principle and interest obligation says separate conversation from defaulting on things to other people. say, sending out social security checks. in the context of quote unquote, defaulting on our debt, i'm with jimmy p. as well. missing an interest payment, a very low probability. >> that where some of the confusion seems to be, steve. exact lit public understanding. that why we are here at cnbc to what the risk really is. is someone not going to get their social security check? is the post office not going to be paid? what would happen first? >> brian, a lot of people don't understand because it is complicated. neither side of this depate want you to understand the reality here. on the one hand, the administration wants you to -- doesn't want you to know there are two options here. def
but i think at the end of the day, the deal made is a debt ceiling increase. but republicans will go through with those sequester cuts. >> yeah. if i could just come. jump in real quick. brian, bandy, jumping 06 of what jimmy had to say here, let's not forget, defaulting on the principle and interest obligation says separate conversation from defaulting on things to other people. say, sending out social security checks. in the context of quote unquote, defaulting on our debt, i'm with...
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the debt ceiling increase is remind forea generation that the u.s. must tackle its debt and deficit problems. that is why there must be spending decreases, something they say wasn't a part of the deal the president just signed to avert, at least some of the fiscal cliff. tracy: here we go again. if february 15th is the big day, that would mean your poor wife will probably be alone on valentine's day, rich edson. god bless you. >> there are worse things. tracy: buy her a box of chocolate. >>> with earnings season getting in full swing this week our next guest says results could provide a base for the market to move higher especially because expectations are so darn low. joining us, margie battle, wells fargo advantage funds senior portfolio manager. earnings are low but doesn't bode well for what we'll hear out of these companies, does it? >> well i think some companies have done some preannouncements where they're expecting their growth to slow down because we should have some pretty low gdp growth for the next several months because of all the uncer
the debt ceiling increase is remind forea generation that the u.s. must tackle its debt and deficit problems. that is why there must be spending decreases, something they say wasn't a part of the deal the president just signed to avert, at least some of the fiscal cliff. tracy: here we go again. if february 15th is the big day, that would mean your poor wife will probably be alone on valentine's day, rich edson. god bless you. >> there are worse things. tracy: buy her a box of chocolate....
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. >> the debt ceiling is still around. >> easily, though. >> the debt ceiling is still around. you are still dealing with that and, of course, the sequester issue. there are a lot of questions about what happens. we're speccing to run into that debt ceiling sometime between february 15th and march 1st. in the meantime, let's talk about corporate news. aig is suiciding maiden lane over lawsuit rights. it's the federal vehicle created during aig's bailout. at issue is whether the insurer transferred its rights to sue for losses that it incurred on its troubled bonds when it sold $2 billion in securities to the fed in 20308. aig is preserving its right to sue the federal government and other debts. >> fed chairman ben bernanke is going to speak and answer questions at the university of michigan. in d.c., president obama is said to be forging ahead on a wide ranging plan to overhaul the immigration plan this year. this includes a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants already in the country. immigrants would have to pay fines and back taxes. it would require businesses to veri
. >> the debt ceiling is still around. >> easily, though. >> the debt ceiling is still around. you are still dealing with that and, of course, the sequester issue. there are a lot of questions about what happens. we're speccing to run into that debt ceiling sometime between february 15th and march 1st. in the meantime, let's talk about corporate news. aig is suiciding maiden lane over lawsuit rights. it's the federal vehicle created during aig's bailout. at issue is whether...
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we've got a debt ceiling issue that the president's going to have to deal with. there are a lot of other issues the president's going to have to deal with, immigration reform. i think the president's going to have to spend time on this whether he wants to or not. >> connie mack, nice to see you. >> nice to see you. >> please tell your lovely wife we're sorry she lost all her luggage and was stuck at the airport. >> love you, honey. >> we'll get back to john berman with a look at some of the other stories ahead this morning. >>> we'll be talking about the golden globes. ben affleck didn't get nominated for an oscar, but his surprise win at the globes may be vindication. we'll have that, the other surprises, and the big snubs in a live report. >>> he's known for his role on "breaking bad," but actor steven michael casada has a new role to play, local school board member. you should know that axiron is here. the only underarm treatment for low t. that's right, the one you apply to the underarm. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can tra
we've got a debt ceiling issue that the president's going to have to deal with. there are a lot of other issues the president's going to have to deal with, immigration reform. i think the president's going to have to spend time on this whether he wants to or not. >> connie mack, nice to see you. >> nice to see you. >> please tell your lovely wife we're sorry she lost all her luggage and was stuck at the airport. >> love you, honey. >> we'll get back to john berman...
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>> what we're debating or not debating is the idea that the debt ceiling in the united states is a very unusual tool, only one other country has it. and it is because what used to happen is whenever the government needed to spend money, particularly when you're in a deficit, the treasury of the united states would have to go out and issue bonds in order to get cash to pay for it. and that was just a cumber some, awkward thing to do. what they did was create this debt cerealing which meant t ce could issue bonds for chunks of money not related to every single law that was passed. it was just because it was cumbersome. it is not a debt control or spending control measure. the president used an analogy today, used many, to say this is like eating at a restaurant, having your fill and not paying the bill. if you want to discuss -- >> dine and dash. >> yes, dine and dash. we have two problems. one is we have to understand the terms of this thing. this is about increasing the treasury's ability to pay for things that have already been committed to by the government. the danger is if you have
>> what we're debating or not debating is the idea that the debt ceiling in the united states is a very unusual tool, only one other country has it. and it is because what used to happen is whenever the government needed to spend money, particularly when you're in a deficit, the treasury of the united states would have to go out and issue bonds in order to get cash to pay for it. and that was just a cumber some, awkward thing to do. what they did was create this debt cerealing which meant...